Academic Lead: Faye Bruce
We’re just about to start our BAME Health evening with GMHSCP. pic.twitter.com/HB4Q4VjYf9
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
The Genesis of CAHN – Faye Bruce, Chair of CAHN and MMU Senior Lecturer and Doctoral Researcher
@FayeBruce17 Chair of @cahn_gm giving an overview of the work of @cahn_gm. Good turnout with @wheppolette @MikeWildMacc @mikeshaft pic.twitter.com/1SbD4Zt3Ar
— Charles Kwaku-Odoi (@charleskod) August 22, 2017
Faye’s presentation can be read, here.
Faye explaining the lack of health targeting for BAME communities for accessing health services @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Faye: Delayed presentation to health services when health outcomes are less favourable @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
FAYE: @cahn_gm is about gathering intelligence about health services already present. Looking tailored approaches and health prevention
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Faye: @cahn_gm has the reach and the knowledge of the BAME community. Our work is evidence based informed by the community.
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Faye: @cahn_gm has a range of experts to collaborate om health. We have a passion for health for all comms. Just won a Mary Seacole award
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Faye: There are so many health initiatives in the community. @cahn_gm is about building capacity in the community pic.twitter.com/zwLNP0Krgu
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren Heppolette, Executive Lead – Strategy & System Development at Greater Manchester Health & Social Care Partnership (GMHSCP)
@wheppolette speaking about #Devolution and #health of #GreaterManchester residents. Also affirms @GM_HSC relationship with @cahn_gm pic.twitter.com/GmUDrmrffk
— Charles Kwaku-Odoi (@charleskod) August 22, 2017
Mike Wild, Chief Executive Officer, MACC
CEO of Macc, Mike: Ice breaker. Devolution or MoU pic.twitter.com/6vacou2Ph3
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Devolution Manchester
Mike: Devolution. We’re making it up as we go along. A huge economy bigger than Wales. There is a scale for this. This isn’t new. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: Dev initiatives have evolved into what we have. E.g. Our metrolink has grown to near complexity of Ldn underground
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: Each component of devoManc is separate. There are new deals around e.g. Welfare. Devolution evolving. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: The mayor is the 11th authority with the other boroughs. Collaboration with existing structure not domination @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
How the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) came about
Mike: We asked for MoU, secondments from vol sector, communications from interim mayor. Basis of present deal @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: Devolution needs to engage the community. MoU between GMHSCP missed out the faith sector. That has now been rectified. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Correction: faith sector
Resourcing the MoU
Mike: How are we going to get comms involved in devo. Start with health and social care and writing a MoU about resources (money) @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Working with Faith Organisations
Mike: What do we call ourselves. Vol community and social enterprise org. VCSE. Looking to add faith orgs, now with this event and @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
The vision for the MoU
Mike: Explaining about the MoU and the reference group. It’s all about ambition is the best bit of devolution. Looking at vision. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: Why haven’t we eradicated poverty in GM. The systems have blocked us. Growth of the economy, trickle down? It has its limits @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
The Hidden Social and Economic Capital of Communities
Mike: Communities can do more than trickle down economy. Tonight. Have your ambitions ready and write them down tonight @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: We have knowledge that big corps don’t have. Our assets, how can we maximise them? @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: Mayor’s priority. Be ready for school, employability, ageing how do we better utilise this assets, homelessness @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: We need to come up with solutions in our ambitons.
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Case Studies from CAHN members
Tony Mason – Chair of Sickle Cell Care Manchester and CAHN member
Tony Mason, director of @cahn_gm . African and Caribbean, unique eclectic mix of cultures. Working together for the common good @cahn_gm pic.twitter.com/xtgdnZo9le
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Chantelle from Sickle Cell Care Manchester
Chantelle giving a testimony about her sickle cell condition and her volunteering with @SickleCellUK pic.twitter.com/OvadpHLWZa
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Chantelle: Finding out what people who live w/ sickle cell want, what kind of support is needed. She has benefited from the network @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Chantelle: Really important to get the knowledge out there of what sickle cell is. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Tony Mason
Tony Mason @SickleCellUK explaining that often sickle cell is not understood at st8 level. E.g. St8 benefits @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Tony Mason: No funding going into sickle cell despite being over 100 yrs. Sickle cell state registered as aenemia so no benefits @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Tony Mason: @SickleCellUK do a lot of unfunded work. Top down state admin not good enough. Comm funding will cut down NHS costs @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Tony Mason: Faye has made her research practical in real world terms for agency. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Tony Mason: Meeting with Mayor, Jon Rouse strategic meetings to get round the table for funding allocation. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Dr Esther Oludipe – Chair of Highway Hope and CAHN member
Dr Esther Oludipe talking about her work at Highway Hope. Esther has a health drop in her church. Just giving a case example. @cahn_gm pic.twitter.com/dIa10ifPh5
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Esther: Pregnant lady with twins in her church. She needed Folic acid, doctors were not prepared to prescribe folic acid for her @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Esther went on to describe how her church drop in, consisting of health care professionals were able to source a second medical opinion that resulted in the prescription of Folic acid (which is widely prescribed for pregnant women in Nigeria) that in turn led to the successful birth of the congregant’s twins.
Esther: Looking at the disparities between treatment between certain communities and how we manage that. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Esther: Looking at how disparities in our comms and how do we manage this? @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Q+A Session
Q+As. How do we follow up on tonight’s event bc access to GM is not as full as it might be?
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren Heppolette
Warren: Use the MoU as levers of accountability.2 formalise the work2 make it more permanent within GM. Use social media2 contact @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Question
Question about commissioning. How can we break into the commissioning sector? How can ensure GM funds our vol groups? @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren Heppolette
Warren: We need to acknowledge that there are different ways of knowing that positively affect commissioning procedures (@cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren: NHS needs to veer away from crisis management i.e. Payment by results. Grants? @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Audience member
We need workshops to educate groups on the commission process. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike Wild
Mike: We need to get rid of the hoops in terms of the application process. Be clear about what you do, how good and cost @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Mike: Be ready with your pitch because sector will be looking for your services @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Audience member
Is there a cross over between health, education and employment at GM? How can the community get involved at GM?
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Hartley Hanley ‘we should not get the leftovers’ ‘people of the Windrush era built the NHS’ @GM_HSC @revkollektiv @charleskod #CAHNGM
— CAHN GM (@cahn_gm) August 22, 2017
The cake should be better shared. Our comms should not just be getting the crumbs. It’s our money as well – Hartley @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Hartley: Why can’t the sector be more explicit about the black contribution to the NHS. Brexit as the context and “wanting our country back”
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren Heppolette
Warren: There is collaboration bw health, education and work e.g. Poor mental health as a barrier2 employment. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren: NHS is inherently political it was formed as a social contract. Immigration and NHS not mentioned enough. Loss of staff @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren: Our BAME communities can provide the voice with passion and rep our contribution to GM. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Audience Member
A question about adoption. No adequate provision for cross cultural adoption. Black children with white families? @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Warren Heppolette
Warren: How do we use the work we do to set the standards across the health sector? E.g. Sicke cell practice
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
A Short Interlude
Mike Shaft from BBC Sunday breakfast, saying hi pic.twitter.com/ck46LcdfiD
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Table discussions, facilitated by Dr Eula Miller, MMU Senior Lecturer, Researcher and CAHN member
Some very clear messages coming out of our table discussions…
Just going into table discussions about how the community can invest in health? @cahn_gmpic.twitter.com/lUcPBPFQuz
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
- How do you think the community could best engage with GM partnerships to improve health?
Answer to question 1. Use social media more effectively
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017


2. What do you (as an individual or organisation) see as the challenges or obstacles faced in relation to enabling health and wellbeing activities within your community?

Barriers to development? Short term funding and lack of collaborative working. Collaborative working on both sides @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017

3. How can GM help to enable health and wellbeing activities for your community?
Anthony Downer: agenda 2010. Should have been collaborative but this didn’t work. Too impersonal to work. @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017


We should be mainstream funded2avoid being divided& rule. We need to better use our professionals in the comm. Self care and networks @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017

shouldn’t decouple mental physical health. They impact on each other. We also need2look at the lang used when talking about health @cahn_gm
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017

Faith leaders filling out our @cahn_gm survey
— Revelation Kollektiv (@revkollektiv) August 22, 2017
Our faith leaders went on to fill out a survey from CAHN that was designed to collect data that would inform the emerging MoU between GMHSCP and Faith Leaders across Greater Manchester.
We ended with a group photo…..

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— Warren Heppolette (@wheppolette) August 22, 2017
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